A real gem of a rebuttal by snugglebunny to his JW parents:
"Just recalling some dialogue with my own JW parents some years ago.
Them: "You chose to leave Jehovah's witnesses!"
Me: "I didn't choose to be raised as one!""
...that's a keeper!
as much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .
we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.
so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .
A real gem of a rebuttal by snugglebunny to his JW parents:
"Just recalling some dialogue with my own JW parents some years ago.
Them: "You chose to leave Jehovah's witnesses!"
Me: "I didn't choose to be raised as one!""
...that's a keeper!
there is a kingdom hall up for sale in longbridge birmingham uk and its on the rughtmove website.
My spin on what you said RubaDub:
"So, you can't work for Babylon the Great as a carpenter even if it is your trade, but they can use brothers and sisters to give their time and materials freely and then sell it to Babylon The Great!"
This practice of 'Mother' (WT) selling Kingdom Halls & Assembly Halls to her arch enemy who in turn will use X-Kingdom Hall/X-Assembly Hall to promote their own religion is the height of hypocrisy on Mother's part...to be sure!
i can`t believe the tidbits i`m finding out about the changes ,dumbing down of the meetings i used to attend and participate in up until the late 1980`s ...
Back in the day (late 80's) when a JW attended a midweek meeting...especially a brother...he would walk in loaded down with a brief case filled with a boatload of literature for that evening...All Scripture Inspired Book, The Reasoning Book, The (monthly) Kingdom Ministry, The Year Book, The Theocratic Ministry School Guide Book, Insight On The Scriptures (both volumes), a thick notepad & last but not least a Bible...all toll about 10 lbs of books & magazines in his bag!
Today in 2019 that same brother (that's if he's still alive) has trashed his brief case along with that boatload of literature & strolls into midweek meetings with a smart phone a little bigger than a box of cigarettes tucked inside his coat...he's even trashed his hardbound Bible.
My...how times have changed!
Hope I didn't get too carried away smiddy 3!🤣
i hear rumbling about the rank and file not having the same zeal they had when new.. lets see: door to door at the time least likely to find someone.
waste of a whole morning.
isolated.
Lack Of Zeal...there's nothing that's going to affect a JW's zest & gusto more than to...after decades of saying that Joel 2 (locusts) applied to JWs...then suddenly and abruptly as was mentioned at this past AGM to say that Joel 2 locusts applies to enemies of JWs! Even though I'm an 'etched in stone' PIMO JW...it was a WTF moment for me when I heard this 180° about-face announcement!
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/jehovahs-witness-leadership-condemn-former-member-accused-of-child-molestation.
jehovah's witness leadership condemn former member accused of child molestation.
by joe galli.
The following statements from WT top brass are heard time and time again when a JW child molester is identified. They're beginning to sound like a broken record:
As Jehovah’s Witnesses, we view child sexual abuse as an especially repugnant wicked deed.
Child abuse has far-reaching consequences. It a?ects the victims as well as those who care about the victims —their family members and their Christian brothers and sisters.
A child abuser hurts the child in devastating ways. He betrays the child’s trust, robbing the child of his or her security. Children must be protected from such a wicked deed, and those who have been victimized by it need comfort and help.
The elders provide ongoing support to any individuals who may have been hurt. In addition, the elders remain alert regarding the alleged abuser to protect the congregation from potential danger.
2019 december brd newsletter.
https://docdro.id/odvxhqr.
2019-s-1-e-congregation field service and meeting attendance report.
My main take-away from this announcement RubaDub is that if newly interested ones are hardly attending the weekend Public Talks & Watchtower Study meetings then there are far, far fewer newly interested ones attending midweek meetings. It has always been the case that weekend meetings always had highest attendance figures. So if weekend meetings are hurting attendance wise...then midweek meetings in a lot of congregations must be a ghost-town...cause not only are newly interested ones not attending...many of the rank & file must be absent as well!
This is truly something to laugh about!🤣🤣🤣
2019 december brd newsletter.
https://docdro.id/odvxhqr.
2019-s-1-e-congregation field service and meeting attendance report.
For obvious reasons the following announcement is intended for elders only:
"2. In some most congregations, few newly interested ones are present at the weekend meeting. In such cases, the speaker may adapt the public talk to encourage the publishers in the congregation."
If there's soo much Gawd-Damn growth in the JW conregatiions...why soo few newly interested ones attending meetings? By this announcement WT, in a way, explains/admits why there's congregation mergers, Kingdom Hall sell-offs and why there wouldn't/shouldn't be hardly any new Kingdom Halls being built.
This organization shoots itself in the foot soo many times and in soo many ways!
Thank you Petra...love your long hair BTW!
for lurkers: current study article 1st december wt.
in sept. study edition.
details hidden in the discussion: a pair of 'elephants in the room', and their calves.
In paragraph 11 WT soft-pedals huge errors that were made early on regarding the identity of 'The Crowd' by explaining them away as incorrect assumptions:
"...Of course, that thinking was influenced by two incorrect assumptions: (1) that the great crowd would reside in heaven and (2) that the great crowd would be made up of less zealous Christians."
in the new article about the international convention in manila, the picture of the crowd is pretty telling.
they look so drained and miserable!.
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Many here are noticing and commenting...'Gone Are The Songbooks'!
Even more importantly & notable...at this convention and at every JW meeting in general is...'Gone Are The Bibles'!
Sad but true and very apparent...Gone is the WTBTS' supposed love for God's word the Bible!
the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.
letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.
apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?
I was told that up to three letters are being read to most if not all congregations in the Long Beach area during this week's mid meeting. One letter is from WT Headquarters...the gist of the letter is that while 'Mother' isn't happy with the hotels for refusing to offer discount rates...WT puts most of the blame on renegade rank & file members who have not been following protocol...but rather have been making their own reservations...not booking rooms from WT's recommended lodging lists. One of the other letters was from WT's Long Beach Convention Committee. In this letter they come down hard on those rank & file JWs for not cooperating...for acting independently, so to speak. The committee says, in so many words, that these JWs have ruined it for everyone else...that the end result will be that brothers and sisters will be forced to book rooms with hotels that are further away from the convention venue.
My reply to 'Mother' and the Long Beach Convention Committee and anyone else concerned..."Get Over It"!